Silver Islands romance is a highlight of ‘Assassin’s Creed Odyssey’

Warning: Spoilers for Assassin’s Creed Odyssey ahead.

A lot has been written about the epic story of Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, and it’s true that the main quests of the game span a massive map and take players on a journey that blends myth, mystery, and the requisite boatloads of murder. But I think the game is at its best in its quieter beats. 

Far from the battle against the Cult of Kosmos or the search for Alexios or Kassandra’s family are the Silver Islands of Mykonos and Delos. They are home to a pair of revolutionaries who are very much in love, bound together in a battle driven by hate. These are Kyra and Thaletas, and when the player character arrives to aid their rebellion, their story becomes one of Odyssey‘s best and most tragic arcs. 

SEE ALSO: ‘Assassin’s Creed Odyssey’ Review: a stunning, mythic adventure of Olympic proportions

It’s easy to see why Kyra and Thaletas love each other. They are passionate, driven people whose bloodlust comes from complementary desires for revenge and Spartan glory. They’re the kind of couple that can disagree on fundamental aspects of life and still care about each other. How quickly they must have fallen in love. 

Thaletas and Kyra’s existing relationship adds a layer of tension and misbehavior to the player’s choice to romance either one of them. Unlike the game’s other sex options, the romantic interests actually have something to lose by falling for the misthios (i.e., the player character). (The option to go buck wild on a threesome is floated in some of the game’s text but is always left unrealized. Bummer.)

75 hours into playing Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, it’s Thaletas I’m still thinking about.

The choice to become a homewrecker is, of course, up to the player. It’s possible to play the Silver Islands questline without getting laid at all. But it’s narratively more interesting to pick a lover, because in that choice lies one of the only stories where love and sex complicate the misthios’s life in a way that feels impactful. 

To start, the romances feel earned and real. Thaletas and the misthios fight side by side, and his admiration quickly becomes romantic and sends him into conflict. Kyra can be equally impressed with the misthios’s willingness to help her achieve her goals and allow herself to give in to her passions. There’s pathos there, and reasoning beyond a desire for sex — which makes the way the Silver Islands questline ends even stronger. 

Regardless of who is chosen, an element of Greek tragedy arises. After affirming their feelings for the misthios and expressing a desire to continue with their relationship, the great love story of Mykonos nearly always ends badly. The player may be forced to kill Thaletas or helplessly watch as either of their lovers die. Even if the chosen romantic partner survives, the quest ends by separating the misthios from their lover forever. 

Sad boyfriends.

Sad boyfriends.

Image: Ubisoft

In my playthrough, Alexios was helplessly drawn to Thaletas and guiltily lured him away from Kyra. The men became friends and lovers, and I was silly enough to imagine them as a pair of warriors who would fight side by side like members of the Sacred Band of Thebes for the duration of the game (you’re going to want to look that up). 

At the end of the questline, however, the two reached an impasse. Thaletas was promoted to the rank of general and begged Alexios to return with him to Sparta. He wanted the misthios to abandon his quest to find his family for the sake of their love. Alexios declined… and in a later scene, witnessed Kyra die by suicide.

Faced with the choice of returning Thaletas to tell him that his former lover — the one who did want to spend her life with him — was dead, Alexios told the truth. Thaletas rejected Alexios for good. They never spoke again.

75 hours into playing Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, it’s Thaletas I’m still thinking about. Did he make it back to Sparta OK? Does he miss Alexios? Will I one day sneak into a Spartan fort and find him patrolling with a Polemarch’s symbol floating above his head, just another thoughtless target standing in the way between my character’s goals and his feelings? 

That’s the kind of character work and story that makes Odyssey great. The Silver Islands may be a series of side quests that don’t really affect the main story, but the emotional impact of losing a friend and a lover stayed with me as a player for the rest of the game. 

I’d be delighted if Kyra (has she survived, as she does in other playthroughs?) or Thaletas would turn up in one of Odyssey’s upcoming DLC stories as a way to acknowledge how dearly Alexios cared for them, but the current ending is probably the smart way to go. There are just enough blanks to fill in with a player’s imagination…

…Oh fuck that. Come back, Thaletas!

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NLCS Game 2 Live

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  2. LoCain Robs Dodgers of HR 😲

    MLB @MLB

    LoCain owns center field. 😱

    #NLCS https://t.co/5AgGzRE9q8

  3. Prince Tosses in Ceremonial Pitch

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    Prince Fielder tosses the ceremonial first pitch in Milwaukee 👑

    (via @Brewers)
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  4. NLCS Live: Dodgers vs. Brewers Game 2

    via Bleacher Report

  5. Prince Will Toss Tonight’s 1st Pitch

    FOX Sports Wisconsin @fswisconsin

    “It’s always awesome to come back, especially here!”

    Former #Brewers star Prince Fielder addresses the media before throwing out the first pitch in Game 2 of #NLCS. https://t.co/OvfSOoadYZ

  6. Adam McCalvy @AdamMcCalvy

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  8. Todd Rosiak @Todd_Rosiak

  9. Yazzie Sits Tonight, Will Start Game 3

    Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin

    Dave Roberts said Yasmani Grandal will catch Game 3 of NLCS. Grandal is not starting today’s Game 2, after two passed balls and two errors yesterday.

  10. Roberts’ Decision to Not Start Grandal

    Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin

    Roberts said the decision not to start Grandal is more about Austin Barnes’ effectiveness in hitting Wade Miley and catching Hyun-Jin Ryu.

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NLCS Game 2 Live

  1. Sophia Minnaert @SophiaMinnaert

  2. LoCain Robs Dodgers of HR 😲

    MLB @MLB

    LoCain owns center field. 😱

    #NLCS https://t.co/5AgGzRE9q8

  3. Prince Tosses in Ceremonial Pitch

    Bleacher Report MLB @BR_MLB

    Prince Fielder tosses the ceremonial first pitch in Milwaukee 👑

    (via @Brewers)
    https://t.co/12KeLVPMvT

  4. NLCS Live: Dodgers vs. Brewers Game 2

    via Bleacher Report

  5. Prince Will Toss Tonight’s 1st Pitch

    FOX Sports Wisconsin @fswisconsin

    “It’s always awesome to come back, especially here!”

    Former #Brewers star Prince Fielder addresses the media before throwing out the first pitch in Game 2 of #NLCS. https://t.co/OvfSOoadYZ

  6. Adam McCalvy @AdamMcCalvy

  7. Sports Illustrated @SInow

  8. Todd Rosiak @Todd_Rosiak

  9. Yazzie Sits Tonight, Will Start Game 3

    Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin

    Dave Roberts said Yasmani Grandal will catch Game 3 of NLCS. Grandal is not starting today’s Game 2, after two passed balls and two errors yesterday.

  10. Roberts’ Decision to Not Start Grandal

    Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin

    Roberts said the decision not to start Grandal is more about Austin Barnes’ effectiveness in hitting Wade Miley and catching Hyun-Jin Ryu.

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Googly eye bandit is wanted in Georgia for defacing monument

This is “no laughing matter,” according to the city of Savannah.

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2016%2f10%2f06%2fcf%2funtitled48.27c77By Kellen Beck

Googly eyes are hilarious. Put some googly eyes on literally anything and people are going to have a good time.

Unless it’s the city government of Savannah, Georgia we’re talking about. To them, googly eyes are no laughing matter — at least not googly eyes placed on a historic statue.

The City of Savannah Government Facebook page posted photos on Thursday of a monument of American Revolutionary War figure Nathanael Greene with googly eyes plastered to his face. Accompanying the hilarious photos was a message decrying the act of vandalism and informing the public that this is in fact a crime.

SEE ALSO: Obama trying VR headset with googly eyes proves he can make anything look cool

The googly eyes allegedly caused harm to the statue, which has withstood years of weather and who knows what else at its outdoor location in Johnson Square.

If the googly eye bandit that did this is found, they could face a charge of criminal trespassing, according to local news site Savannah Now. The reason why it’s being taken seriously is because this is a monument to a deceased person who served in the military.

Greene, who died in Georgia in 1786, was a major general under George Washington in the Continental Army. He started as a self-trained soldier who organized a local militia in Boston and eventually came to command the southern theater.

If the damage to Greene’s statue is found in excess of $500, the googly eye bandit could be hit with felony charges.

And nothing takes the fun out of googly eyes like criminal charges.

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Descendant of Robert E. Lee rebukes Trump for praise of ancestor

Trump praised a Confederate general, again.
Trump praised a Confederate general, again.

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2017%2f09%2f19%2ffa%2frakheadshot.f59fbBy Rachel Kraus

Sometimes words deliver a punch to the gut. Not the kind of impact that knocks you down, but the kind that lifts you up.

Early Saturday morning, a descendant of the Confederate Civil War General Robert E. Lee, Reverend Robert Lee IV, posted a video message on Twitter taking exception to President Donald Trump’s Friday evening statements praising Lee

“Last night I was disheartened to hear Donald Trump, our president, make comments about Robert E. Lee as a great general, as an honorable man,” Lee said. “These were far from the truth.”

Trump was speaking at a rally in Cincinnati, and he peppered looking-glass Civil War history amongst calls for black Americans to “honor” Republicans with their votes. He called Gen. Lee “a true great fighter” and a “great general,” and claimed President Lincoln developed a “phobia” of Lee. 

SEE ALSO: Snapchat’s voter registration initiative might actually reach new voters

Lee’s descendent, who is a reverend, took the opportunity to set the record straight about his ancestor.

“Yet again our president is lying and showing us his true colors,” Lee said. “He is showing us that he supports an idol of white supremacy and of hatred. Robert E. Lee fought for the continued enslavement of black bodies. It was for states’ rights, yes, but it was for states’ rights to own slaves.”

Confederate figures have played a strangely prominent role in recent American politics and controversy. Calls to remove statues honoring confederate figures inspired the deadly 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. And President Trump has largely supported maintaining Confederate Monuments, and praised Confederate figures himself.

Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017

…can’t change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson – who’s next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish! Also…

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 17, 2017

Trump’s Friday remarks praising Lee for confounding then-president Abraham Lincoln were part of a build-up to him saying nice things about Ulysses S. Grant, the Ohioan and future U.S. president who eventually accepted Lee’s surrender at the end of the Civil War. But Reverend Lee’s message is a powerful admonishment, coming from a southerner and a descendent of the general himself. 

Lee also reflected on how Trump’s words fit into the larger state of American politics and culture. And ended his message with a hopeful entreaty to vote and redefine American values. Read, listen, and be inspired:

“I find myself saddened by the state of our nation,” Lee said. “But i’m encouraged. I’m encouraged because we are going to work to end this. We are going to vote, we are going to show Donald Trump that white supremacy has no place in any parlors of our government. We are going to show him who the people are and what really matters in this nation. So I encourage you to vote.

I encourage you to continue to be the people that God has called us to be, those people who are so enraged with holy anger that we do not sit by and let this happen.”

Amen, reverend. 

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Knicks Cut Joakim Noah After Reportedly Failing to Agree to Buyout

New York Knicks' Joakim Noah (13) walks to the bench during a time out in the second half of an NBA basketball game against the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2017, in Dallas. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)

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The New York Knicks announced on Saturday that they waived Joakim Noah after being unable to find a trade partner for the veteran center ahead of the 2018-19 NBA regular season.

Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN first reported the Knicks would waive Noah via the stretch provision after the sides were unable to reach a buyout agreement. According to Wojnarowski, Noah will have a cap hit of $6.4 million for three straight seasons starting in 2019-20. 

Steve Popper of NewsDay.com added: “The [Noah] release leaves the Knicks with a three-year hit of the $19 million remaining on his 2019-20 contract. Waiting past this season’s deadline made it just one year.” 

The Knicks’ decision to move forward without Noah was long expected. Wojnarowski and Ian Begley of ESPN.com reported in early August the franchise was planning to waive him if a deal couldn’t be found, and that’s what happened.

Noah failed to meet expectations after New York signed him to a four-year, $72.6 million contract in July 2016. He leaves the organization with two seasons left on that deal.

The 33-year-old University of Florida standout missed the end of his debut campaign with the Knicks after undergoing knee surgery. He proceeded to receive a 20-game suspension for a violation of the NBA’s anti-drug policy and required offseason shoulder surgery on a torn rotator cuff.

He returned to action in November 2017 after completing his recovery and the ban, but he ended up making just seven appearances last season before leaving the team following an argument with head coach Jeff Hornacek, who was ultimately fired in April.

In July, Noah told TMZ Sports he wanted to stay with the Knicks following the coaching change to David Fizdale, adding, “I love New York!”

“Coach Fiz is cool, man,” he said.

Noah averaged 4.6 points, 7.9 rebounds and 2.0 assists while shooting 49.1 percent from the field across 53 appearances in two seasons with the Knicks.

He would have been buried on the depth chart behind Kristaps Porzingis, Enes Kanter, Lance Thomas, Noah Vonleh, Luke Kornet and Mitchell Robinson when everyone is healthy.

Instead, the 2013-14 NBA Defensive Player of the Year will seek a new team where he can earn a more prominent role and potentially enjoy a bounce-back season.

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Melania Trump explained what her ‘I don’t really care’ jacket meant

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2016%2f09%2f16%2f63%2fhttpsd2mhye01h4nj2n.cloudfront.netmediazgkymde1lza2.c97cfBy Adam Rosenberg

Melania Trump would have you believe she can’t catch a break. But never forget: She’s still a Trump, and lies come with the territory. 

The First Lady exposed yet another Trump lie to the world on Friday night. In June, in the midst of significant public and political blowback over immigrant families being separated at the U.S. border, Melania wore a jacket bearing the spray-painted words: “I don’t really care, do u?”

SEE ALSO: Melania Trump boards plane to meet immigrants wearing ‘I really don’t care’ jacket

Making matters worse, First Lady Trump was on her way to visit detained kids in Texas at the time.

It was a boneheadedly tone deaf sentiment to express at that moment, but the First Lady’s office defended her fashion choices, claiming that it was “just a jacket.” Now we know better, thanks to Trump herself.

During a sitdown with ABC News on Friday, Trump revealed that the jacket was meant to carry a message, but that message wasn’t aimed at detained children. For those keeping score at home: The jacket was still tone deaf, but now we know that “just a jacket” explanation was actually just a lie.

After pondering whether or not she would have gotten the media coverage she did if she hadn’t worn the jacket (huh?), Melania contends “it’s obvious, I didn’t wear the jacket for the children.”

She continued: “I wore the jacket to go on the plane, and off the plane. And it was for the people and for the left-wing media who are criticizing me. And I want to show them that I don’t care. You could criticize whatever you wanna say … but it will not stop me [from doing] what I feel is right.”

Following up, ABC’s Tom Llamas asked Melania: “So you were sending a message with the jacket?”

Melania agreed. “It was kind of a message, yes.”

The revelation, while it won’t be particularly surprising to some, has not been met with enthusiasm on social media. Melania claims she wants people to focus on what she’s doing instead of what she’s wearing, but — as the ABC interview exposed — what she’s doing involves, at least in part, lying to the American public when it’s politically helpful to do so.

Seems that the First Lady is more of a Trump, and less some silenced secret dissenter, than many anti-Trumpers imagined. So much for all those ‘Free Melania’ signs>>> https://t.co/BP1zjGNc6h

— Susan Glasser (@sbg1) October 13, 2018

Melania: Why do people make such a big deal about what I wear?

Also Melania; Here is the deliberate, petty calculated public statement I made by wearing something.

What a charmless, awful fraud this woman is. https://t.co/b8Oee4MQst

— Eddie Love (@EddieLove44) October 13, 2018

On the day when Melania Trump visited children separated from their parents, this is where her head was. Not with the children, she admits. https://t.co/rHrqvewVY8

— Elise Jordan (@Elise_Jordan) October 13, 2018

A text from a friend last night while watching @FLOTUS interview: “She’s Trump, just in a better-fitting suit.”

— Kate Bennett (@KateBennett_DC) October 13, 2018

So she knew. She was aware what the jacket said. She was aware and CHOSE to wear it to witness the unbearable pain of children ripped from their parents cuz they are brown. Why? Some tongue & cheek joke to the media?? You are the joke Melania. @flotus

— tara strong (@tarastrong) October 13, 2018

The most bullied individual in the world, right here. Can’t imagine what she does to deserve such treatment. Can U?

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What does ‘time well spent’ mean for games like ‘Candy Crush?’

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Riccardo Zacconi, CEO of King, the company behind 'Candy Crush'
Riccardo Zacconi, CEO of King, the company behind ‘Candy Crush’

Image: King

2016%2f06%2f30%2feb%2f201503270cheadshot 20.820a0.f61ddBy Pete Pachal

If you own a smartphone, chances are you know Candy Crush and maybe even the game’s latest incarnation, Candy Crush Friends Saga. What you may not know is the story behind the franchise: How an Italian entrepreneur put all his cash on the line as a co-founder of King, the company that created the game, in the early 2000s, with a big idea: re-invent gaming for the online world.

That person is Riccardo Zacconi. He’s guided the company through the many phases online gaming (desktop, Facebook, mobile, and more), taking King public and eventually selling it to gaming giant Activision Blizzard in 2015. In this episode of MashTalk, Zacconi talks about that journey, his thoughts on Mark Zuckerberg, and what the future holds for gaming now that people are starting to question all the time they’re spending on their devices playing games like, well, Candy Crush.

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This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Pete Pachal: I was reading a little bit about your background, and I think you might be the first knight we’ve had on MashTalk. Is that correct? Or at least the Italian equivalent of a knight?

Riccardo Zacconi: Yeah, that’s right.

PP: Is there a ritual when you get that?

RZ: Yeah there’s a ritual with the ambassador who basically welcomes you and gives you a cross and a few other things

How long ago did that happen?

I think it was maybe a year and a half ago. It’s kind of a secret actually, I don’t share it.

Well, congratulations, belatedly. So when did the first Candy Crush come out?

We launched it on mobile in November 2012. We started the company back in 2003.

So why did you why start King, and what were you doing before then that sort of led to that, because it was sort of a different era, Web 1.0 as we refer to it now.

We launched King in 2003, and I started the company with my co-founders who I met back in 1999. At the time we all working at a startup, a portal in Europe. We had a big investment at the time from a Swedish investor, and with about 10 million dollars back in 1999, we built a company from 20 people to 800. We ended up selling the company to Lycos, unfortunately in equity and not in cash.

And so it was a good experience, not zero money, but a good experience. I learned that companies have to be profitable, and that was very important for my thinking later on.

Still, a better exit than a lot of people had back then.

On paper, yes. It was great cause I met my co-founders then, and then after that I did online dating for a short time. We started one of the first free dating sites in Europe, and it went crazy without any marketing. Then once after having sold the company, I realized that actually there were others who are doing really well also with a paid model, and specifically match.com, and I looked into launching the first paid dating service in Europe. And instead of launching completely from scratch I joined a company called uDate. And this was back in 2002.

So post-crash.

Post crash, very healthy company, but we sold the company a few months after I joined. So from that I made some money, and I reinvested the entirety of what I made there in King, and that’s how we started.

So you invested all your own money?

Yeah, I put everything I had basically in there, and I had nothing. I lived in the flat of a friend of mine, a very good friend of mine for two and a half years. And I gave away my car, gave away my rented flat, everything.

Wow, what gave you that confidence that this was the thing to do?

There was no other option. It was a tough time to raise money. During tough times, it’s often when you have to be more creative. So we put in all our personal money to perfect the beta in 2005.

We launched on the web. At the time, the key model was download, so you would pay for a download. In our case you would pay to compete against others.

So this was sort of pre-Flash games — that was sort of like the online model at the time was like you’d have a Flash game with some ads on it.

Exactly, you would either play Flash, with an ad model behind, or you would play as a download model, but no one was actually offering games where you would compete against others, and monetize online, not just as a download.

So what were some of the titles, some of the games.

Oh we launched more than 200 games, and those games where basically one-level-only games. So Candy Crush was based on one of the games we developed at the time. So many, many years later when we moved to Facebook, and then to mobile, we took the best games we developed previously and launched those games in a different way. We called it “saga” format where you have a map, and you play with others. And we launched games on the web with Facebook first, and then in a way where you can play cross-platform, also mobile.

I’m glad you mentioned Facebook, because it seems to me they sort of changed things radically. Because that’s what we did on Facebook, honestly, if I think back to 2008-2009, roughly. You basically went to Facebook to play Farmville, Scrabble, Knighthood, and the things you guys were doing.

Yeah, so we’ve seen many platforms basically coming to market in some ways. So we were on the web, then we got disrupted suddenly by Facebook. We tried to get on Facebook, but we didn’t really try hard enough in some ways, and so at some point Zynga came up, came to the market and took away most of the users, who at the time were playing on the web, on Yahoo. And so the Yahoo games channel lost 45 percent of the users in one year, between April 2009 and 12 months later.

And that was sort of a natural migration.

It was a natural migration because the Facebook platform was more fun to play on. Because you would play with your friends instead of basically playing by yourself. And then Zynga integrated on mobile, and the players went from the web to Facebook.

It took us about two years to really crack Facebook, on PC, and find a way to bring our best games from the web to Facebook. And that was the coming of the second platform, which was mobile, which then disrupted the web, and Facebook on the PC. But this time, it was an easier transition, because we had already a few very successful games, on Facebook on PC. And we innovated there by allowing the same games to be played fully cross-platform between PC and mobile. That’s what really gave the company an incredible boost.

I’m curious: Did you get a sense that Facebook wanted to kind of move away from a games-driven model, and that sort of helped spark your push to not being as reliant on them?

No, because for us it was all upside, meaning we were on the web, we were scaling the Facebook platform, and we were still No. 2 when we launched on mobile. And there was still a big gap between us and Zynga. For us, mobile was not basically reducing the reliance on Facebook — we invested more than ever on Facebook. It was really to crack this new platform. I had no idea the ramp would be so fast.

For mobile.

We launched Candy Crush in November 2012, we had a board meeting in October. And in this board meeting we approved the budget for the next year, and a month after having launched Candy Crush on mobile, we already achieved the entirety of the budget for the next year. So it was like being on a rocket.

Did you launch only on iPhone at first? Or was it on Android as well?

We launched almost contemporaneously. In fact, this was a really important decision, because we already had a user base on PC, and since our games were fully cross-platform, it allowed all of our players to play immediately with all of their friends independently where they were — whether they’re on a PC, on an iPhone, or an Android device. And that basically unleashed the potential of the game.

It sounds like the social dynamic behind Candy Crush, being able to play with friends, with leaderboards or whatnot, was a key part of this.

I think it was very important, yeah. Because it was more fun to play with others, but we introduced a very gentle competition so there was not a winner or a loser, like in our old model, it was a, “I passed you,” so you would receive a message, saying, “You’ve just been passed.” You want revenge and try to pass your friend again. Or you could invite friends to play with you.

So when’s the Candy Crush movie coming out? When’s that happening? There was an Angry Birds movie, there’s an Emoji Movie

Well we had the Candy Crush TV show, but to do a movie you need characters. We launched the new Candy Crush Friends, and it’s very much focused on characters. So we have had characters in the game, in Candy Crush, since the beginning, but now we’re really bringing them to life, giving them personalities in 3D, and also really making them a core part of the game. I think that once we have that, the sky’s the limit.

Apple, Google, and Facebook are taking a hard look at like the engagement that they are getting. They’re talking about digital well-being, and time well spent, and that simply because a person is engaged for a long time, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re having a good experience. There’s almost like this moral question that comes in like are you doing something good? So I bring this up to you because I have a couple friends who are Candy Crush addicts, they characterize themselves as, “Ugh, I’ve got a problem, I’ve got to stop doing this.” What have been your discussions internally and perhaps externally about that phenomenon.

Sure. I think, first of all Candy Crush is a great game; it’s a fun game. But it’s actually structured in a way that it does not require you to play for many hours in a row. It’s exactly the opposite in fact. We structured the game in a way that it’s easy to learn — you can play it in three minutes. Candy Crush now has more than 3,800 levels, but each level can be played over just three minutes. Because we think that the mobile experience is not one where you stay many hours on the device playing, but is one where we want you to be able to play in a short space of time — while you’re waiting for the bus, or you’re in the underground, or you have a moment for yourself and you want just to relax. In fact, the model in which we started with the business model was: stopping the player from playing.

Really?

RZ: Yeah, after a certain amount of time. You have all these levels. If you do not pass a level, you lose a life. You have five lives, and once you lost the five lives, we will tell you, you either stop playing and wait 20 minutes, or you pay, or you invite some friends. So if you don’t want to pay, and most people actually do not pay.

Yeah, that’s a barrier.

You have to wait 20 minutes. So it’s actually really putting a brake saying, “Hey wait a second.” And this has been really a part of the success, because we have retained our users, now for over five years, and Candy Crush is doing extremely well. I think that for us the key metric is, the retention of the users, to see basically how many people come back. We’re not looking at how much time you’re playing everyday, that’s not the key target for us.

Where do you stand on the whole phenomenon or the question of games being fads or not, I think some games are indisputably fads, and fade a way. But what is the difference between something that’s faddish or something like Candy Crush and Angry Birds. Is there an end to Candy Crush in sight, and when will the next thing come?

I think the world of games has changed dramatically. So in the old days when we started, we developed a game, and once we developed a game, we launched the game, and then we would immediately focus on the next game. So no one would be taking care of the game, we launched it, and the users would play it, and once the user gets bored, because they finished the game or because it’s repetitive, and after a while you want to do something else, they would move over to the next game.

We’ve built a portfolio of games. Now, we actually learned something which is really important: The user, when they like a game, if we give them more content, more surprises, more reasons to come back every day, more reasons to continue playing — they’re not looking for something else. And it’s something which is familiar but surprising at the same time. That’s what we’re trying to achieve. And that’s why Candy is doing so well, and that’s why the No. 1 priority for the company is to make Candy into an everlasting game by continuously innovating. The day we stop innovating, the day we stop providing the user with a reason to come back, and fresh content and fun things to do within the game, we will lose the users.

What are your thoughts on VR and AR? Augmented reality seems like the big hot thing, or was for a while there with Pokemon Go, but it seems to be coming back now with things like [Apple’s] ARKit, and all these other platforms. Any plans there, and any thoughts on that space in general?

I see VR very different from AR. So, VR great experience is really fun, but I think it’s very difficult actually to play on VR, especially if it’s for more than let’s say, 10 or 20 minutes. I personally feel sick, so we’re not putting our efforts on VR at King. AR I think is different. AR can be great fun as we’ve seen from other players in the market, and it’s something which definitely we are experimenting with also. And it’s fun! That said, I think our games do not require an AR environment to be fun to play, do not require any other hardware to be played. Our focus is to make sure that our games have wide appeal, that you can play them on any phone, in any region in the world.

I heard Zynga’s for sale. Do you think you could talk to your bosses at Activision and see if it can happen?

I’m not personally involved, so I don’t know.

What’s your opinion of Mark Zuckerberg?

He’s extremely product focused, he’s very strategic in his thinking, and he loves what he does.

Do you think could beat you at Candy Crush?

Yeah, he’s very good.


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Indonesia: Landslide kills school children in North Sumatra

Flash floods and landslides have killed at least 27 people, mostly children, on Indonesia‘s Sumatra island, officials say.

An Islamic school in Muara Saladi village saw the highest death toll after mud from the flood and debris from landslides struck Mandailing Natal district in North Sumatra province on Friday afternoon, local police chief Irsan Sinuhaji said on Saturday.

Rescuers and villagers on Friday managed to save several teachers and only 17 out of 29 school children who were swept away, said Sutopo Purwo Nugroho, the National Disaster Mitigation Agency’s spokesman.

He said rescuers retrieved the bodies of 11 children from mud and rubble hours after the incident and one more on Saturday.

A video obtained by The Associated Press news agency showed relatives crying besides their loved ones at a health clinic where the bodies of the children were lying, covered with blankets.

Rescuers and villagers managed to save several teachers and 17 children [Antara Foto via Reuters]

Nugroho said two bodies were found early on Saturday from a car washed away by floods in Mandailing Natal, where 17 homes collapsed and 12 were swept away.

Hundreds of other homes were flooded up to two metres high, while landslides occurred in eight areas of the region.

Four villagers were killed after landslides hit 29 houses and flooded about 100 buildings in neighbouring Sibolga district, Nugroho said.

He said flash floods also smashed several villages in West Sumatra province’s Tanah Datar district, killing five people, including two children, and leaving another missing.

Landslides and flooding in the neighbouring districts of Padang Pariaman and West Pasaman killed four villagers after 500 houses flooded and three bridges collapsed.

Dozens of injured people were rushed to nearby hospitals and clinics [Khairul Bazar/AP]

Both North and West Sumatra provinces declared a weeklong emergency relief period.

Hundreds of survivors fled their hillside homes to safer ground, fearing more of the mountainside would collapse under continuing rain, Nugroho said.

Dozens of injured people were rushed to nearby hospitals and clinics, he said.

Seasonal downpours cause frequent landslides and floods each year in Indonesia, a chain of 17,000 islands where millions of people live in mountainous areas or near fertile flood plains.

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Malaysia’s Anwar Ibrahim wins parliamentary by-election

Malaysian politician Anwar Ibrahim has won a parliamentary seat in a by-election that sets the stage for his eventual takeover from Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.

The Election Commission said on Saturday that Anwar received 71 percent of the total votes cast, defeating six other candidates.

He got 31,016 votes, while his closest rival secured only 7,456.

“I am happy with the results. Allah bless us all,” Anwar said after the victory, which marks the charismatic politician’s stunning political comeback from prison to parliament.

He is expected to be sworn in as a legislator on Monday. 

The 71-year-old is the designated successor to former foe-turned ally Mahathir, after they set aside a bitter political feud and joined hands to win a stunning victory in May’s general elections.

Mahathir returned to the prime minister post in May, saying he would stay in power for only two years before handing the reins to Anwar, who was in prison at the time for a 2015 conviction for sodomy which he alleged was politically motivated.

Anwar received a royal pardon days after the polls.

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He campaigned hard over the past two weeks to secure a mandate in the multi-racial constituency of Port Dickson, promising voters development, clean government and a boost to local tourism.

“I will see you in parliament on Monday,” he told the AFP news agency earlier on Saturday as he visited a polling centre, smiling broadly.

“We are voting for the next premier. We need an influential leader to bring long-overdue progress to Port Dickson,” said 60-year-old voter Lee Tian Hock.

“This morning, I prayed to Allah for a big win for Anwar,” retired truck driver Mat Taib, a member of the country’s ethnic Malay majority, told AFP. 

“I want him to be our eighth prime minister.”

Political heavyweights including Mahathir have campaigned for Anwar in a road back to office that was unthinkable even six months ago.

The duo went onstage together at one campaign event, prompting wild cheers from supporters. 

WATCH: Can Anwar Ibrahim save Malaysia from corruption? (25:41)

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